User talk:Brucoms

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  • I have an idea to gather scripts which Russian community generated over all these years. Do I need to ask for permission of the administration of sites where they were posted, or is it enough to name the author of each script? Wretched fetcher
  • It would probably be best to ask for permission, just to be on the safe side. --Brucoms (talk) 20:33, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
  • Hey Brucoms, what do you think about adding blank pages with links to the guides? Should we make a dedicated page with links to the guides which are not present in wiki?
  • Another question: is it okay to write an author's e-mail? I feel uneasy about it, as some wrote guides eons ago, and maybe don't want to be disturbed.
  • First question: It would be best to try and put links into pages were they would make sense, e.g. a tutorial about modelling and then in the external links sections we have a link to the guide we couldn't get permission for. Otherwise for now keep hold of those links elsewhere (e.g. on your user page) until we get permission for them in the future, or we build up enough of them to put them into what you've suggested.
  • Second question: If there's no other method of contact, then yes, I think it would be fine to email them.
Hope that helps! :) --Brucoms (talk) 13:04, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
  • I'm sorry for misunderstanding, but I was asking about whether is it a good idea to write an author's e-mail address on the page where his guide is. For example, on Morrowind Script Library page there's Nedius' e-mail now.
  • Aah, my apologies! Hmm, it really wouldn't be a good idea making the email address publicly available. Perhaps the author has another form of contact?
  • Nope.
  • That's a shame. Then, as I said, you'll have to leave out the author's email address. --Brucoms (talk) 16:26, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
  • All done! :) --Brucoms (talk) 17:45, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
  • Hi, Brucoms! What's your opinion on content conversion? I've seen Doblebrewsky's guide on Morrowind Modding Wiki:Guides Needing Permission, but wanted to double-check, because the topic is rather controversial. Personally, I think it is ok as long as you use it for yourself only. Shall we host such guides? I have a couple.Wretched fetcher
  • I agree, as long as you're only doing it for personal use it should be ok. However, I think just to be on the safe side for now, we don't add guides like the above yet. The topic is controversial, but I'm more worried about Bethesda possibly clamping down on us if we do add them. --Brucoms (talk) 22:22, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
  • Yeah, I think you're right. A shame, though.
  • It just occured to me that, although Doblebrewski's guide cannot be added (he specifically mentions that he converts Beth's models), a guide for converting models from mods of other games may still be ok (but only for yourself, unless permitted by an author). Of course, we will add that converting original content is not legal. I am asking because I have a very nice know-how on converting using just nifscope. Perfect for beginners! What do you think? --Wretched fetcher (talk) 23:15, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
  • Hmm, ok. I think we could get away with it. Just make sure that, at the top and in bold (gotta be extra careful), we have a message stating that it's not legal to use the process on Beth's work or on another author's work. Though in the second case it is possible providing permission was explicitly granted.
  • Hi! I see you work like a busy bee! Mind if I ask a couple of questions?

1) What if we use pronoun "it" for the NPCs? "They" feels a bit too excessive, and also leads to confusion in sentences like: " an NPC in front of the PC, so that they...(who, NPC, PC, or both?)". How does it sound for a native speaker?

2) Can/should we host official documentation on the CS?

3) There is a Russian wiki, called Tiarum, which holds a ton of valuable guides (of special interest are ones on animations and modeling). What if we offer them a deal: they permit us to translate and host their content and we do the same for them? I mean only content written by our and their staff, not by other authors. Link:Категория:Morrowind_Руководства

4) Can anything be done with automatic logout feature? It seriously gets in the way. --Wretched fetcher (talk) 10:22, 14 November 2014 (UTC). Here is a better description of my problem: if I edit a page for a long time, sometimes saving fails, and this message is displayed: "Unable to save due to loss of session data...". Hitting "save" again works (it wasn't before, by the way). I haven't lost anything, it's just an annoyance.--Wretched fetcher (talk) 14:28, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

1) "It" is fine. You could also use just "he" or "she" or "he/she". The pronouns "he" and "she" can be used even when the gender is not known, just pick one and remain consistent within the page. The reader will know that you're referring to that character and will know that the gender is unknown.
2) What official documentation are you thinking of? The help guide found within the CS? I think it should be fine to have it on the wiki, providing we mark it as being produced by Bethesda themselves.
3) That's a really nice wiki, and that's a great idea Wretched Fetcher! The only problem is that, at the moment we kinda get a fantastic deal and they... don't. While we could potentially get several pages, they'll get... two...? Three...? But it's still worth asking. I'm happy to have the Beginners Guide on there, and you could ask Skrawafunda if he'll be happy for his compatibility guide to be ported over too.
4) Yeah, I agree it's annoying, but I think it's simply how the wiki works with regards to editing unfortunately.
I hope those answers were satisfactory! :) Keep asking away, and keep up the great work! --Brucoms (talk) 17:00, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
Oh, and I've moved Creation and Management of Factions.
On point 3. I am happy that you like this idea! This was a question in advance, we are not ready for such a deal yet, I agree =). It's kind of embarrasing that the English-speaking community has started a modding wiki so much later.
Yeah, it's really strange that it's only recently that we've got an English wiki.
Though our wiki is exclusively for Morrowind modding. This makes it unique. Others became pretty bloated.--Wretched fetcher (talk) 05:02, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
Huh, interesting. Bloated in what way? --Brucoms (talk) 10:51, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
I think our narrow field of specialization is what can make this wiki very successful. Old wikis, with all due respect to them, encompass much larger area of interest, if you understand what I mean. Not only they cover all aspects of a game (not just modding, but also ingame information, such as various quests, walkthroughs), but they have chosen to become a portal for all TES universe. Navigation is harder now, resources of the staff have to be spread out on many unrelated tasks. TES Online mixed up things further, the main pages of wikis are filled with news about it, while many TES fans are single-player gamers only, and don't like it at all. So yeah, specialization is the key.--Wretched fetcher (talk) 11:38, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
Aah, I see what you mean! Yeah, hopefully you're right and that our specialization is what will help to make us successful. --Brucoms (talk) 11:40, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Update Posts

  • Hi, Brucoms! I wanted to ask, Do you mind me making update posts on the forums and generally answer questions there?--Wretched fetcher (talk) 20:35, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
    • Knock yourself out! :) I really appreciate the help! --Brucoms (talk) 15:26, 28 November 2014 (UTC) is blocked by spam filter

  • Hey, our spam filter blocks, while there are a couple of MGE shaders there. Is it normal? I have bolded blocked links and inserted asterisks in them for the time being. The page section: MGE#Related downloads and links.--Wretched fetcher (talk) 21:25, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
    • Hmm, I've never had this happen before. I'll speak with Anda and see what we can do. It might just be a case of whitelisting that particular link. --Brucoms (talk) 21:58, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
    • Ok, perhaps it would be better to ask the author's of the files to move them to another site (e.g. the Nexus)? Or perhaps we could do it, with permission. --Brucoms (talk) 15:39, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
      • Or maybe just leave it as it is, just asking users to remove asterisks? I don't think the authors can be contacted, they stopped developing MGE years ago. I'll check readme files, maybe they left notes regarding permissions. --Wretched fetcher (talk) 16:10, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
      • ...And not a line about permissions. How typical.--Wretched fetcher (talk) 17:00, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
        • Hehe, it is surprising the number of people who forget to include permissions. Anda also suggested that we ask users to manually copy and paste the address into their browser's address bar. --Brucoms (talk) 15:30, 14 December 2014 (UTC)